A few things for Cornbread, who can dish it out but not take it, and who likes the sound of his own voice, but deletes the words of others:
“Oh yeah… fergot <sic> that maybe that the computer era had something to do with this… which yet again -”
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This of course is the reason why there are people able to do more work in less time.
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I cannot stress how computers and technology should be a tool to use, not a crutch to lean on. Crutches = DUMBING DOWN – DUMBING DOWN = BAD!
If it had nothing to do with dumbing down, how were you able to base an argument on it?
You don’t back your conclusions about machines dumbing us down with evidence as you stated. The only fact your citations support is that mechanical assistance lets people do more work, and that’s not dumb at all.
“FACT – a good majority americans can not do long division in decimals without a calculator
FACT – a good majority of amercans can not do simple algebra without assistance via Computer or Calculator”
these are completely unsupported, and probably not true (keep in mind “A good majority” means well over half.) I would concede that a large portion of americans – esp. if children are included – can’t do these tasks.
You phrase your post as a rebuttal when it is actually an attempt to change focus and shift attention awawy from your previous statements by the introduction of new material. You failed to address my questions about your argument:
I said that dumbing down wasn’t a recorded phenomenon and was a media promulgation, and that you were buying into it. Your only response was that you don’t watch much TV.
I questioned your contention that all schools have books. You didn’t respond. There are schools in america where students share desks and the ratio of appropriate textbooks to students is as bad as 1:3.
“Ok, first off, I agree that there are schools with no books that don’t give anyone a chance. I think I said that and made that perfectly clear. Or rather, let me just sum everything up in one paragraph rather than picking him apart – THIS IS A GENERALIZATION AND DOESN’T INTEND TO GET SPECIFIC WITH EVERY DETAIL IN EVERY SITUATION!!!!!!!!! I can’t believe I have to spell it out to fucking ingrates – thus proving my dumbing down statement.”
The exact statement I was replying to was that every school you knew of had books. What part of that statment qualifies it as a generalization? It sounds an awful lot like a blanket implication that most if not all schools have books, esp. as it was phrased as an offhand brush-off of my statement that some don’t.
As for deleting my post – you didn’t do it because I made fun of you. I didn’t make fun of you that bad…what, did I hit to close to home when I said your attempt to sound worldly didn’t impress me? Jesus, what balls – listen man, you need to reflect a little on the fact that what you *banned* me for had less vulgarity and crudeness in it then most of the stuff you leave on people’s sites as a “supportive” comment. You want to talk about abuse? You’re probably the most foul-mouthed sob I’ve seen on xanga! It isn’t a personal attack for me to undermine your ideas, it’s legitimate debate.
You deleted it because I used your own words to make you look bad. Addmittedly, my intention. You banned me because you want a venting forum where you can say any damn thing and not have to deal with anyone calling you on the parts that are wrong. If you had faith in your ideas and you truly thought my argument was weak, you wouldn’t try to hide, censor, and halt the debate – you would be enjoying it.
And as for me being an idiot, it’s not really material, but I can do all of the things you named without mechanical assistance. I also know how to spell hypocrisy. Once again, you resort to personal attacks rather then responding to my points regardin your veiws on education vis a vis “dumbing down” – you really don’t know how to argue. At all.
And as for me not knowing anything about you – that’s not true. We have a great many mutal friends and I’m from a small town you lived in for quite a while. We’ve talked quite a bit on the internet, and I read your xanga. So unless what you post has nothing to do with what you are actually like, I do know a fair bit about your opinions and how you think.